1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:29,240 For the first day when I walked into the place, I knew something wasn't right in the 2 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:30,240 car. 3 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,720 This room makes me sick to my stomach right off the bat. 4 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,240 It comes from this direction, reminds you of the Grim Reaper. 5 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,240 You can't stop me, you can't save them. 6 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,920 If you're going to kill yourself, stick the gun in the mouth and pull the trigger. 7 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,440 The count to three, can you please give me a sign? 8 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,440 One, two, three. 9 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:54,760 Oh, what the f*** is that? 10 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,760 My name is Ryan and I'm a paranormal investigator. 11 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:03,080 When I was a kid, my experiences with the supernatural terrified me and I've been searching 12 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:04,080 for answers ever since. 13 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:09,040 So when I got to Penn State, I realized I wasn't alone in my quest. 14 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,960 So I founded the Paranormal Research Society, dedicated to helping those who were haunted 15 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:14,760 like I was. 16 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,760 We are students. 17 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:17,760 We are seekers. 18 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,760 And sometimes we're warriors. 19 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:25,880 Any time we help someone, I feel like I'm one step closer to finding the truth. 20 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,880 This is Paranormal State. 21 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:42,840 Okay, we got contacted by a woman named Brenda who moved into a farmhouse in West Virginia 22 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,760 after she married a man named Jim. 23 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:50,800 She claims that upon entering the house immediately, she started having experiences. 24 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,600 She felt like there was something not right. 25 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:59,440 She claims who have had experiences like hearing gunshots going off, footsteps, apparitions 26 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,160 of some sort of hooded figure. 27 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,200 We're dealing with an emotional case, obviously. 28 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,080 This isn't a, hey, I think my house is haunted. 29 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,960 Come on by and take a look. 30 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,880 She feels like there's something evil here. 31 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,880 Now let's try to find some answers. 32 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:41,360 Hi, Brenda, I'm Ryan. 33 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,520 We spoke on the phone before. 34 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,520 Nice to meet you. 35 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:54,000 This is where the hooded figure has been seen. 36 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,000 It is as solid. 37 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,520 It's not black, it's brown. 38 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,280 And it's always over here? 39 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,600 It comes from this direction and goes into this rib. 40 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:09,640 Like a gliding, not like you got a gate or anything, just right on into the room. 41 00:03:09,640 --> 00:03:13,600 Who's this gentleman right here? 42 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,480 This was my late husband. 43 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,480 Was this made after or before he died? 44 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,680 That was after. 45 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,920 Here's where the gunshot blasts come from right here. 46 00:03:26,920 --> 00:03:28,600 It's happened to me four times. 47 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,160 Did it sound like it was being shot from here? 48 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,120 Or does it sound like it could have been a little bit further in the distance? 49 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,120 Right here. 50 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:36,120 Right in the spot. 51 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,620 How loud is it? 52 00:03:37,620 --> 00:03:38,620 Loud. 53 00:03:38,620 --> 00:03:40,120 I mean, just ear ringing loud. 54 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,120 Really? 55 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:42,640 Because if you were standing next to someone that was shooting. 56 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,200 So when was the first gunshot blast? 57 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,640 2005. 58 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,840 And that was after Jim had passed. 59 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,560 You never heard any gunshot blasts prior to 2005? 60 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:53,560 No. 61 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,920 Okay, I'm going to take you upstairs where the doctor's office was. 62 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:02,080 That was Jim's family practice. 63 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:08,640 And we kind of left this, this stopped and just left it as it is. 64 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:13,520 I know there has been people I did ask Jim, has anybody ever passed away up here? 65 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,080 He said yes, he had patients that had died. 66 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:17,080 Really? 67 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,800 Did anyone else pass away in your house other than patients? 68 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,300 Other than Jim. 69 00:04:22,300 --> 00:04:24,600 Jim passed away here in the house? 70 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,600 Yes. 71 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,760 Pardon me for asking this, but why are you still here? 72 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,280 Because I'm not leaving. 73 00:04:32,280 --> 00:04:35,880 I'm not giving up my house to something that's not natural. 74 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,360 This is my home. 75 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,000 You believe this is an evil spirit? 76 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,560 Yes, I do. 77 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:46,360 By evil spirit, do you mean like an evil person or do you mean like an inhuman spirit? 78 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,800 I think it's of that sort. 79 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:48,800 That sort. 80 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:49,800 I did. 81 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,080 It almost reminds you of the grim reaper. 82 00:04:54,080 --> 00:05:01,160 Your sleep is disrupted because you know someone's in the room, that's the feeling you get. 83 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,920 And I was sleeping with my rosary wrapped around my fingers. 84 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,920 Why were you sleeping with your rosary wrapped around your fingers? 85 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,120 I was praying, please God, don't let him hurt me. 86 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,120 Really? 87 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,120 Don't let him kill me. 88 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,880 Have you ever had any weird experiences here? 89 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:14,880 I have. 90 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:15,880 I've had a few. 91 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:22,200 Several years ago I had seen in the house a hooded figure floating into my uncle's bedroom 92 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,320 and completely terrified me. 93 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:26,440 And when did you see this? 94 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,640 Was this before your uncle died? 95 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,200 It was before. 96 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,360 It was going into his bedroom while he was in there. 97 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:33,360 Oh really? 98 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:34,360 Mm-hmm. 99 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,120 Did he ever say anything about seeing it? 100 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:41,160 One time he was saying something was after him and he never went into detail about what 101 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,400 it was. 102 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,320 Leading up to Jim's death, activities seemed to have increased. 103 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,120 Do you feel like he was possessed by a spirit? 104 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,240 I think it was working on him. 105 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,320 I do. 106 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,400 Every time that the hooded figure was seen it was going into the master bedroom where 107 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,920 he was asleep in bed. 108 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,600 And he had ended up locking himself upstairs where nobody could get to him. 109 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,720 Now the hooded figure, what did it look like to you? 110 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,840 I know you said it glided and it was dark. 111 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:13,440 It kind of reminded you of like the Grim Reaper. 112 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:21,480 I fear for her to be in this house and I just want her to be safe and I don't want the same 113 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,920 thing to happen to her that happened to him. 114 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,280 So if you don't mind let's talk a little bit about Jim's death. 115 00:06:29,280 --> 00:06:32,480 I know it's a hard part but how did he die? 116 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,920 I don't want to talk about it anymore. 117 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:35,920 Okay. 118 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:43,480 I understand. 119 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,000 Director's log is 10.34pm. 120 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:52,680 I'm waiting for Elfie to drive up with psychic medium Michelle Belanger who we've requested 121 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,680 to come and do a psychic walkthrough of the location. 122 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:01,240 I've also asked Elfie to blindfold Michelle so that way she's not influenced by visual 123 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:09,600 cues when giving her reading. 124 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,560 The atmosphere in here feels heavy. 125 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,360 Tight, closed in, a little claustrophobic. 126 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:20,600 I keep expecting there to be something like on top of my head or closing in on me. 127 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:27,280 Just something that is flowing and almost formless and smothering and suffocating. 128 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:36,720 That oh inhuman but the shape it wears is much more definably that of a person, a tall 129 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:41,240 man but with no features. 130 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,480 I hear a voice. 131 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:44,480 You can't save them. 132 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:45,480 You can't save them. 133 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,160 You can't stop me. 134 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,040 You can't save them. 135 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,440 Just who's saying it? 136 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,480 Is it in a malicious way? 137 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,120 Taunting. 138 00:07:54,120 --> 00:08:02,880 In this room there's a sense of anxiety in the pit of my stomach and cold and just despair. 139 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,960 The woman weeping by saying a rosary. 140 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,520 The beads in my fingers, cool beads. 141 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,320 Can you describe the woman? 142 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:18,040 Older than me, maybe 40s or 50s, some lines on her face, not a lot and she just looks 143 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,040 tired. 144 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:27,480 She's a target of very malicious attacks. 145 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,520 This room makes me sick to my stomach right off the bat. 146 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,520 Someone died here. 147 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:40,040 I keep seeing a guy with kind of a shock of white hair that's a little longer than it 148 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:45,880 needs to be kind of disheveled and kind of a bushy mustache. 149 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,360 It's somebody in agony. 150 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:55,760 You know how he died? 151 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:02,160 Bullet wound shot with a lead bullet or something. 152 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:09,360 Regret at the very end. 153 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,040 Katrina and I were sort of looking earlier today. 154 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:17,120 There's a bunch of stuff here but one of the things that stuck out was this. 155 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,000 Anything but it says there. 156 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,720 I love you all. 157 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,360 Can't take anymore. 158 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,360 Dead. 159 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:24,360 Yeah. 160 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:25,360 Hmm. 161 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,600 Did you talk to Brenda about this? 162 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,400 No, she doesn't know. 163 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:32,600 She doesn't know that you found this? 164 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:33,600 Yeah. 165 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,800 This looks like a suicide note. 166 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:36,800 Yeah. 167 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:45,560 The day he died, where did he pass away? 168 00:09:45,560 --> 00:09:46,560 Downstairs. 169 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,000 Downstairs. 170 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,000 Okay. 171 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Would you be able to show me the spot? 172 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,000 Yes. 173 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,720 In this area right here, used to be a bathroom. 174 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,320 I had it taken out because this was the room where Jim passed away. 175 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,120 And how did he die? 176 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,120 Gunshot. 177 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,120 Shot with a lead bullet. 178 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,120 Self-implicated. 179 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:21,360 Do you think he was planning a suicide? 180 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,360 I think it was in his mind. 181 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:29,200 He called me two days before and I could tell by the way he was talking that he was going 182 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:30,200 to do something. 183 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:35,200 I went to the authorities here in town and told them what was going on and they were 184 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:42,640 going to come up with an order to bring him out so we could get him to help. 185 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,600 All this other behavior was so unlike Jim. 186 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,720 You could see him getting more angry or more aggressive. 187 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:54,280 Do you feel like whatever's in this house is responsible for Jim's death? 188 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:55,280 It's okay. 189 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:56,280 It's okay. 190 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:57,280 I'm not going to lie. 191 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,080 It's okay. 192 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,760 I don't want that thing to come after me because I saw it go after him and that's what we all 193 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,280 feel because it went to where he was. 194 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,120 And I'm bound determined to be stronger than it. 195 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,120 It's not going to get... 196 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,080 I want it out of here. 197 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:22,480 It's here. 198 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,480 So you knew Jim for how long? 199 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,360 About 23, 24 years. 200 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,440 He was one of my best friends. 201 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:34,560 He was the best doctor ever known in the world and anytime I needed anything I could count 202 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:35,560 on him. 203 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:38,760 Did you ever have any experiences in the house? 204 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:43,520 When I was nearby myself I would always be hearing noises and think somebody was there 205 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,000 and say, hey, who's here? 206 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,000 What about Jim? 207 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,400 Did he ever talk about any experiences? 208 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:54,360 I imagine he had experiences but he never would voice stuff like that. 209 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,000 When Vicki had possessed or haunted, she kept saying that. 210 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,000 Who's Vicki? 211 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,680 Jim's first wife. 212 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:09,800 Jim was going to buy her a farm but then they got in the accident and she got killed. 213 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:14,680 Did Vicki ever try to do anything to resolve the phenomena at the house? 214 00:12:14,680 --> 00:12:18,560 She had a Ouija board and had candles lit. 215 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:21,080 I never was really involved in any of that. 216 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,080 She just wanted to get out of there. 217 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,800 She wanted to move away into a farm. 218 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,240 Jim was actually driving her out to look at this farm. 219 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:37,400 It's a real windy road and another car was coming and was over the half of the road and 220 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:38,400 they hit a tree. 221 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,120 She had a hangman's fracture. 222 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,640 When you're C1, C2, it's the two vertebrae up here. 223 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,600 When those are severed, nothing can do. 224 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,280 So they were trying to swerve to get away from it? 225 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:51,960 Avoid the oncoming car. 226 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,200 Was the person drunk or anything like that? 227 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:55,200 They kept going. 228 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,640 They didn't stop and they never found the person that hit them. 229 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:05,640 He was very distraught after Vicki died and his biggest regret was that as a physician, 230 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:11,840 you know, I mean, as somebody who saves lives, he couldn't save hers. 231 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:17,760 If you look at it at face value, you have a house that had no experiences reported up 232 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,760 until Jim moved in. 233 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,000 Jim started to practice here almost immediately. 234 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:29,560 A lot of sick people, a lot of people with ailments, a lot of sadness here. 235 00:13:29,560 --> 00:13:30,800 Jim died in the house. 236 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:31,800 He committed suicide. 237 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,640 You had his wife died. 238 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:38,760 It's very possible that what we're dealing with is actually residual energy. 239 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:39,760 Director's log. 240 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:44,280 What remains to be seen is how much of a threat this energy presents. 241 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,760 For tonight's dead time, Michelle will go into a meditative state using the blindfold 242 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:55,280 and pulsating lights and she'll attempt to make contact with any spirits in the house. 243 00:13:55,280 --> 00:14:00,120 Because of Brenda's strong Catholic faith, I'm also inviting Father Bob Bailey to participate. 244 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:27,680 Hi guys, let's commence that time over. 245 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:34,720 If there are any spirits who dwell within this house, I'm calling for only those who 246 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,760 dwell within this structure. 247 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,440 Come on, you creepy b****. 248 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,440 Stop hiding from me. 249 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:48,440 I just heard a sound coming back here. 250 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,440 What was that? 251 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,440 Ryan heard a sound. 252 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,440 I think we got its attention. 253 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:04,440 If there's anybody here listening to me right now, please give me a sign that you can hear me. 254 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,440 Can you please knock something over? 255 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,440 Who's here with me right now? 256 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,440 I heard a few thumping sounds. 257 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:20,440 Sounds like it's coming from right over here. 258 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:28,440 Is that you making the thumping sound? 259 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:37,440 The tall shadow behind me, cold fingers on the back of my neck. 260 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:44,440 You need to do something to let me know that you are here. 261 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,440 Hey K5, what's going on? 262 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:51,440 Something touched my arm. 263 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,440 Did that just happen? 264 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,440 Yes, I'm looking right down the tunnel. 265 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:07,440 On account of three, can you please give me a sign that you're here and that you're listening? 266 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,440 One. 267 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,440 I think it might be upstairs. 268 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,440 Two. 269 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,440 Does somebody have a thing right now? 270 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:18,440 Three. 271 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,440 Come on, you creepy b****. 272 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,440 I am tired of your games. 273 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,440 Oh, what the f*** is that? 274 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,440 Hey Ryan, what did you experience? 275 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,440 I saw someone crouch down. 276 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,440 Oh, what the f*** is that? 277 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,440 Hey Ryan, what did you experience? 278 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:47,440 I saw someone crouch down and bolted away as soon as I got in here. 279 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:53,440 Hey Brenda, do you want to come join us upstairs? 280 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,440 We're going to go ahead and start search. 281 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:56,440 Copy that. 282 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:03,440 I command you, in the name of Jesus Christ, to make yourself known now. 283 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,440 I'm not going to put up with it. 284 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,440 It's not chasing me out. 285 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,440 I'm here to stay. 286 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,440 In the name of Jesus Christ, why are you here? 287 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,440 What do you want? 288 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,440 In the name of Christ, tell us what you want. 289 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,440 I'm asking you spirit now. 290 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:27,440 Are you attached to this property? 291 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,440 I'm getting tired of it night after night, day after day. 292 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,440 I'm sick of it. 293 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,440 And I've got help here now. 294 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,440 And you are powerless. 295 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,440 You're not going to wear us down. 296 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,440 You're not going to wear me down. 297 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,440 And I want you out. 298 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:49,440 So unless you've got the guts to come and present yourself and get this over with, 299 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,440 we're not going to let up. 300 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,440 So what do we got? 301 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,440 Remember you said you saw something in the storage room? 302 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,440 Looking into the storage room, right there. 303 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:13,440 And then we find the culprit. 304 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,440 The other thing we got out of the video stuff, 305 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,440 there was an interference pattern that we found on camera too. 306 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:26,440 All of a sudden goes from clear to full static. 307 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,440 Okay. 308 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,440 So Katrina, you got touched upstairs and... 309 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,440 When I was upstairs, I felt something. 310 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,440 I mean, my first thought was to react back because I didn't know what was on me 311 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,440 and like something touched it. 312 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,440 What it was, I don't know. 313 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,440 I started to think about why it would be after her. 314 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,440 That's the thing that's bugged me the most. 315 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:54,440 And I can't shake the sense that it attached itself to her late husband 316 00:18:54,440 --> 00:19:00,440 and that it was around him before things went very badly with him. 317 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,440 But she seems like a pretty stable person and she's not as troubled as he was. 318 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,440 So I tried to figure out why she's a target. 319 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,440 And I think that the key is guilt. 320 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,440 How much would she wonder if she failed him somehow 321 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,440 that she couldn't prevent him from suicide? 322 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,440 I think she's dealt with an awful lot of things, 323 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:27,440 but what this thing is connected to in her and probably from him is the sense of guilt. 324 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:39,440 Oftentimes when a tragedy happens, the other significant loved one 325 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,440 usually goes through a questioning part in their life. 326 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,440 And all that can lead to an unhealthy guilt. 327 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:53,440 These things very often feed off emotions and guilt would be one of them. 328 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,440 The other thing, laughter is key in this house. 329 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,440 I don't feel like there's been a whole lot of laughter in this house, has there? 330 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,440 I mean, I'm not really. 331 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,440 No. 332 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,440 It hates laughter because it weakens it. 333 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,440 So try to create this bubble environment where suddenly you're just, you're so terrified, 334 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,440 you literally start to go crazy. 335 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,440 You just got to keep pumping that energy and it will change this environment, this house. 336 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:21,440 One of the things for some closure to write a letter, just write and say how you feel, 337 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,440 maybe there even needs to be some forgiveness now to forgive you for what, 338 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,440 write that all out and then bring it to the cemetery. 339 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,440 All the pieces have come together. 340 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,440 And I believe that's why I am lighter, much lighter this morning. 341 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,440 This morning it was just almost flowing over. 342 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:38,440 Right. 343 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:39,440 And more relaxed. 344 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,440 It's changing already. 345 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,440 So I'm happy about that. 346 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:10,440 I truly let go of any burden she feels over Jim's death and move onward with life. 347 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,440 Maybe then the hooded figure will finally fade away.